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Author Topic: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread  (Read 314757 times)

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1425 on: January 23, 2019, 12:06:46 AM »
Tyrone Mings Loan to buy once Bournemouth get Mepham has legs

Any more on this VC?

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1426 on: January 23, 2019, 12:14:39 AM »
Was there not previously a ITK where Sawyers had told someone that he was signing for us - quite a while back I think

Yes.
Came from my lads mate who met him while he was working over Dorridge way.

Sawyers actually told him he was going to sign for us.
Have to admit I expected it to be done by now, so, whether things have changed with a couple of other clubs showing interest I don't know.

We trust you ! He'll be in by end of window then !

That's great info .

These things take time so I think this is a good one other wise you wouldn't post up what your son told you

So I think he'll come then when it's FA cup weekend
They play Monday night 28th and I think he won't play then.

Window closes 31st

There it is !
I  myself speculated  about his move having heard the rumour here?!

Maybe he won't be playing Monday night so then speculation will really take off again !

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1427 on: January 23, 2019, 12:51:33 AM »
According to Sky we offered Mepham better personal terms than Bournemouth.  He might regret turning us down.

Bit of a blow, as seeing him play for Wales a few times now, I think he would have been ideal.  Big, mobile, comfortable on the ball and favours the left side of central defence though he is right footed.  Not saying he is at or will make it to the same level as John Terry, but he reminds me a bit of him and I think he'll do well in the top flight. 

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1428 on: January 23, 2019, 06:40:56 AM »
Brentford have a ground to pay for I guess.

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1429 on: January 23, 2019, 07:00:44 AM »
Brentford have a ground to pay for I guess.

They certainly have made enough in the last few years to put a few quid towards it.

Read this in an article at the start of the season.
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"Once Woods’s £7m move goes through in January it will be possible to make an XI of players sold over the last four years which Brentford bought for around £6.7m and sold for approximately £60.8m – a cool £54.1m profit.

Goalkeeper David Button (sold to Fulham), defenders Maxim Colin (Birmingham), John Egan (Sheffield United), Harlee Dean (Birmingham), James Tarkowski (Burnley) and Jake Bidwell (QPR), midfielders Woods (Stoke), Jota (Birmingham) and Stuart Dallas (Leeds) and forwards Andre Gray (Burnley) and Hogan (Aston Villa) are all good examples of the club’s ethos."

I reckon we could put together the reverse version of that - players we've spent about £60m on and got about £5m value.

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1430 on: January 23, 2019, 07:31:52 AM »
We could match that record of astute dealing in any single player sold on for his true value eg Gueye, Amavi, Veretout, Traore.  I am not talking football, I am talking money.  The paramount need at Villa Park is not to piss money away in pursuit of the "he's shit get rid" business model.  He may well be shit (though I think the four I mention above are better than most of our current squad) but football is a business and you DO NOT talk down your assets.  Not unless you want to go broke.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 07:34:57 AM by brian green »

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1431 on: January 23, 2019, 07:44:12 AM »
We could match that record of astute dealing in any single player sold on for his true value eg Gueye, Amavi, Veretout, Traore.  I am not talking football, I am talking money.  The paramount need at Villa Park is not to piss money away in pursuit of the "he's shit get rid" business model.  He may well be shit (though I think the four I mention above are better than most of our current squad) but football is a business and you DO NOT talk down your assets.  Not unless you want to go broke.
Very true and rumours that Gueye off to PSG for £40million

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1432 on: January 23, 2019, 07:56:14 AM »
And the values we sold them for in reality (approx reported fees)?
Gueye - Signed for 9m - Sold for 7.1 million
Amavi  - Signed for 7.7m - Sold for 9 million
Veretout - Signed for 6m - Sold for 6 million
Traore - Signed for 7m - Swapped for Adomah

A grand total assuming Traore and Albert as equals of a net loss 600k

I would say unbelievable, but it's actually only too believable after the last few years.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 08:02:29 AM by SheffieldVillain »

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1433 on: January 23, 2019, 08:01:49 AM »
You could not run a whelk stall with a balance sheet ,like that.  Well actually we were owned by a whelk stall owner back in the day and he balanced the books.  Well, there or thereabouts as somebody once said.

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1434 on: January 23, 2019, 09:02:45 AM »
And the values we sold them for in reality (approx reported fees)?
Gueye - Signed for 9m - Sold for 7.1 million
Amavi  - Signed for 7.7m - Sold for 9 million
Veretout - Signed for 6m - Sold for 6 million
Traore - Signed for 7m - Swapped for Adomah

A grand total assuming Traore and Albert as equals of a net loss 600k

I would say unbelievable, but it's actually only too believable after the last few years.


That does look bad I'm no business man but I could have got us better deals than that.

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1435 on: January 23, 2019, 09:17:22 AM »
And the values we sold them for in reality (approx reported fees)?
Gueye - Signed for 9m - Sold for 7.1 million
Amavi  - Signed for 7.7m - Sold for 9 million
Veretout - Signed for 6m - Sold for 6 million
Traore - Signed for 7m - Swapped for Adomah

A grand total assuming Traore and Albert as equals of a net loss 600k

I would say unbelievable, but it's actually only too believable after the last few years.
It's a bit daft beating ourselves up over not making a profit on players who were largely vilified whilst they were with us.

I think we all knew Veretout & Amavi could be decent players, but neither really performed whilst with us and both were agitating for a move.  Getting our money back was ok.  Gueye was always decent for us but I doubt many thought he would go on to do as well as he has.  The small loss was a bit of a kick in the balls, but that's a relegation fire sale for you.

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1436 on: January 23, 2019, 09:33:06 AM »
Traore is a circus act.

Looking forwards, the Express & Star are suggesting we're stepping up our attempts to land Mings.

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1437 on: January 23, 2019, 09:38:58 AM »
And the values we sold them for in reality (approx reported fees)?
Gueye - Signed for 9m - Sold for 7.1 million
Amavi  - Signed for 7.7m - Sold for 9 million
Veretout - Signed for 6m - Sold for 6 million
Traore - Signed for 7m - Swapped for Adomah

A grand total assuming Traore and Albert as equals of a net loss 600k

I would say unbelievable, but it's actually only too believable after the last few years.
It's a bit daft beating ourselves up over not making a profit on players who were largely vilified whilst they were with us.

I think we all knew Veretout & Amavi could be decent players, but neither really performed whilst with us and both were agitating for a move.  Getting our money back was ok.  Gueye was always decent for us but I doubt many thought he would go on to do as well as he has.  The small loss was a bit of a kick in the balls, but that's a relegation fire sale for you.
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Traore is a circus act.

Looking forwards, the Express & Star are suggesting we're stepping up our attempts to land Mings.
Traore is a circus act.

Looking forwards, the Express & Star are suggesting we're stepping up our attempts to land Mings.
And the values we sold them for in reality (approx reported fees)?
Gueye - Signed for 9m - Sold for 7.1 million
Amavi  - Signed for 7.7m - Sold for 9 million
Veretout - Signed for 6m - Sold for 6 million
Traore - Signed for 7m - Swapped for Adomah

A grand total assuming Traore and Albert as equals of a net loss 600k

I would say unbelievable, but it's actually only too believable after the last few years.


That does look bad I'm no business man but I could have got us better deals than that.

Wasnt there a sell on clause for Traore ?

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1438 on: January 23, 2019, 09:41:26 AM »
Traore is a circus act.

Looking forwards, the Express & Star are suggesting we're stepping up our attempts to land Mings.

Under Dean Smith Mings can only get better

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Re: Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread
« Reply #1439 on: January 23, 2019, 09:46:16 AM »
Thing is, we could have kept those players but they didn't want to stay. Gueye wanted out and had a release clause. So did Vertout.. Traore I never rated anyway. Managers like him for the same reason some of the fans like him - his pace. The fact that he still has little end product and the ball can end up anywhere won't stop managers trying to harness his speed. Amavi, fair enough he claimed after the fact he didn't want to leave, but yknow...  At the time Trying to build a promotion team round foreign players who don't want to be there is iffy especially in a division like the championship and with the sour smell in our dressing room. We cut our losses, and didn't lose a fortune. You could make a good argument that we didn't spend the money we got for them well though......

 


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