Anti-Semitism at Tottenham

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-reserve- Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 241

I spent Saturday afternoon standing about two thirds of the way back in the upper tier at Spurs. Despite the 45 degree slope of that stand, the people 2 rows in front of us would not sit down, even when everyone in front of them had, and after they had been repeatedly asked to by the stewards. Which was ok for me but not so great for the 8/9 year old kids sitting directly behind them who couldn't see a thing and just sat on their seats and sulked.

For the entire game the people around us chanted songs and shouted at the Spurs fans, while making hand gestures like little pairs of scissors:

"We all hate Jew Scum..."
"Where's your foreskin gone..."
"Fucking Jewish c***s..."
"Fucking Hebrew c***s..."

The youth next to me who was either paralytic, or educationally sub-normal, had to ask me who had gone off for Carew. I told him Heskey had been injured and he giggled, and returned to his afternoon's entertainment.

coach Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 4579

I'll never understand why these people aren't thrown out. MOTD should have a 'name and shame' function every week to stamp out crap like this. Put their faces and slurs on national TV, only the most die-hard racists will want to keep at it, in which event they can be banned for life or worse.

first team Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 695 Location: London

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

-reserve- Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 241

bob wrote:

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

You weren't sitting next to me, were you Bob?

Posted: Mon 08 Feb, 2010 11:08 am

How many people were singing these songs? I was 2/3rds of the way up in the upper tier and didn't hear any racist stuff. Not that I'm saying it didn't happen, just wondered how many were involved.

A few people in front of me were chucked out for standing up. A bit harsh, in my opnion.

-reserve- Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 241

Chico Hamilton III wrote:

How many people were singing these songs? I was 2/3rds of the way up in the upper tier and didn't hear any racist stuff. Not that I'm saying it didn't happen, just wondered how many were involved.

A few people in front of me were chucked out for standing up. A bit harsh, in my opnion.

I reckon about ten people in the rows in front of me, and behind me, and beside me

first team Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 695 Location: London

wif wrote:

bob wrote:

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

You weren't sitting next to me, were you Bob?

Not unless you were hiding in my bed.

-first team- Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 897

I must admit that just lately the behaviour of some of our away fans is embarrassing.

Every away match I go to it amazes me how much of the match some of them don't see. I'm sure we could score and some of them wouldn't see it.

The state of the lads who "sat" in the row in front of us at Blackburn recently was disgusting. There was no way that they could tell you one fact about that match afterwards (some would struggle with goal scorer) they were so p*ssed.

It certainly does not make some away matches a good experience but why should we stop going just because of these morons.

I hope having paid £86 for a cup final ticket the fans round by us know how to behave!

Posted: Mon 08 Feb, 2010 11:31 am

My step-dad, who's a Stoke fan, went to Spurs away this season & was sat in front of someone who was coming our with similar filth ("gas the Jews" etc).

He reported him to a steward & a copper, and said he'd be happy to point him out face-to-face.

What happened? Not a thing.

coach Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 3432 Location: B69

bob wrote:

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

We were singing that back in 1991 it was funny however I was 14 at the time.

coach Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 3032

bob wrote:

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

why is it , mine is missing from birth and I am not Jewish.

In fact it is a pathethic and racist sterotype and unfortunatly amongst our fans we have idiots like this who think this is funny.

If I saw this I report it to Villa as you know your row and ticket and number and Villa would have the names of who sat there.

first team Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 695 Location: London

pdiddybaby wrote:

bob wrote:

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

why is it , mine is missing from birth and I am not Jewish.

In fact it is a pathethic and racist sterotype and unfortunatly amongst our fans we have idiots like this who think this is funny.

If I saw this I report it to Villa as you know your row and ticket and number and Villa would have the names of who sat there.

Foreskin envy?

coach Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 3032

bob wrote:

pdiddybaby wrote:

bob wrote:

I imagine many of those chanting have never met a Jew in their lives, such is their ignorance.

"Where's your foreskin gone?" however, is mildly amusing.

why is it , mine is missing from birth and I am not Jewish.

In fact it is a pathethic and racist sterotype and unfortunatly amongst our fans we have idiots like this who think this is funny.

If I saw this I report it to Villa as you know your row and ticket and number and Villa would have the names of who sat there.

Foreskin envy?

which of these do you think are 'mildly amusing'

Quote:

"We all hate Jew Scum..."
"Where's your foreskin gone..."
"Fucking Jewish c***s..."
"Fucking Hebrew c***s..."

same sentiment really, I would really encorage Wif to report this to the club, idiots who sing this and find it 'mildly amusing' have no place at our club.

(not jewish either, as if that matters)

Posted: Mon 08 Feb, 2010 1:01 pm

That is a really ugly development. I wouldn't like our fans to be associated with anti-semitism. For all the talk of stamping out racism, it would appear that there is a long way to go.

Posted: Mon 08 Feb, 2010 1:13 pm

I suspect some of the dimmer elements of our support think anti semitism is "acceptable racism" or actually "not really as bad as racism, because they're white".